[Sherlynn9]

Just a quick question about fiber. If it is not absorbed by the system, how does it contribute to blood sugar? In the beginning, Atkins did not do fiber subtraction as he said only the insoluble fiber could be counted and one had no way of knowing how much of the fiber was insoluble (or is that the soluble, always get confused on that). With the popularity of Protein Power (that is where the net or Effective Carb Count came from), Atkins finally conceded and I guess the newer books tell people to subtract the fiber.

Sheryl

Those numbers yesterday were full carb count as DW does not do net carb calculations, so my net carb count would have been less.

Sheryl

[IceMan]

Low Carb, Net Carb, Dual Carb, No Carb, Simple Carb, Complex Carb, no wonder peeps are confused....I AM going to eat one of those wraps and see what it does to my blood sugar if for no other reason than they look so good on TV.... http://boards.dietwatch.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

chow......d.

"all is energy...and energy follows thought"

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[annamp]

Well actually yesterday I had a grand total of 31 g of carb, it would have been 22g if I had subtracted the fiber in the foods with it and carbs.

I didn't really want to believe that this was going to work but I saw my mother whose triglcerides used to be 500 and are now under 200 in just 5 months.. she also has lost 15 pounds but more importantly she's lost 3 sizes.

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[Miss_Hattie]

That definitely explains it well! Thanks! Sounds like low carbers are kidding themselves with carb/sugar control if this is the plan.

When I count carbs - I'm counting CARBS! All of them. Fiber is great, but still gotta count your carbs for sugar control.



"I am determined to fight and win my battle against Diabesity!"

[annamp]

Miss H.. the LC meant Lo Carb .. too many abbreviations in my head.

the lo carb plans want you to eat fiber so you subtract the fiber grams in a food from the carb grams to get the "net carbs"
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[Miss_Hattie]

Ahhh..... so actually those subway wraps contain more carbs than they're hoping the typical consumer will notice!!!! Thanks for the info, Anna. (It was Subway, not Lean Cuisine - IceMan's menu idea.)

Sherlynn - When you count carbs, are you counting the total carbs or the "net" carbs? Just a thought on whether that could be part of your problem with BS control.



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[annamp]

Net carbs means the amount of carbs grams minus the amount of fiber grams.. it's the LC way to get you to eat healthier choices.

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[Miss_Hattie]

Don't know for sure about the "net" carbs. Maybe it means without your choice of condiments.

Lean Cuisine has some excellent entrees! I buy only ones that are less than 280 calories.



"I am determined to fight and win my battle against Diabesity!"

[IceMan]

Mmmmmmmmmmm, that LC shrimp n' angel hair pasta sounds good..I'll be chekin' costco and sam's for summadat next weekend...I'm also looking forward to hitting Subway and trying their new low carb wraps...the ad sez 11 net carbs per san...is there a trick...why would they say "net" carbs, never heard carbs referred to that way...are there more but they're subtracting due to something else in the san..??..guess I'll ask for the nutri breakdown while I'm at it...

chow......d.

"all is energy...and energy follows thought"

My Diabetes Page (http://www.datainthehouse.com/diabetes/dwdiabetes.htm) -- updated weekly --
iceman@astacalaska.net

[Miss_Hattie]

Hopefully, I am done eating for the night! I'll come back and edit if that's not the case. I had a total of 939 calories and 147 carbs for the day. Was tricky eating right while being up all night at work.

1 a.m. ~ a boiled egg

3:45 a.m. ~ 6 oz. light fat free banana cream yogurt

5:25 a.m. ~ 1 large Golden Delicious apple

9:45 a.m. ~ a 4.3 ounce Dole fruit gel bowl, and 2 fat free smoked turkey franks with 1/2 Tablespoon catsup (Note that I eat only the franks, no bun or bread - I just dip them in catsup.)

3:45 p.m. ~ Lean Cuisine Entree of Shrimp and Angel Hair Pasta with few red peppers and carrots in a creamy seafood sauce

6:20 p.m. ~ 1 1/2 cups Roasted Veggie Blend of potatoes, broccoli, green beans, red peppers and onions with rosemary seasoning

7:10 p.m. ~ a 4 ounce Dole lite mixed fruit cup (peaches, pears, pineapple)

8:30 p.m. ~ 3 cups mixed lettuce salad with 1 Tablespoon salad dressing

9:40 p.m. ~ 1 serving (11 pieces) cocktail shrimp with 1 Tablespoon cocktail sauce



"I am determined to fight and win my battle against Diabesity!"

[annamp]

breakfast : 2 eggs, 2 egg whites, 1/2 cup of ham, 2 ounces of colby, minimal oil...

s: sugar free jello, slice of provel, slice of deli turkey

L: tuna with mayo on a piece of Whole wheat bread, 1/4 cup of berries, ceasar salad minus the croutons

s: string cheese

D: will be pork chops grilled, 2 cups of green beans, spinach salad with a bit of tomato and cucumber

s: sugar free jello

water: working on my 6th glass now at 225

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"Guide me with the light of truth and grant me wisdom by which I may understand the answer to my prayer"

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[Miss_Hattie]

Anybody else gonna join us on this New Year's Day and post what food you've eaten today? You can post it as you go or at the end of the day. It would be a great way to get started in 2004!!!!!



"I am determined to fight and win my battle against Diabesity!"

[IceMan]

0645 Breakfast: 1 slice whole wheat toast w/ butter, 1/2 orange. [15uH]

1200 Lunch: 1 cup vegetable bean beef boullion soup 1 toasted whole wheat cheddar/jack cheese san, 1 liberally cinammon sprinkled nuclear apple. [18uH]

1200 Lunch: 1 cup vegetable bean beef boullion soup, 1 toasted whole wheat egg/tuna salad san, 1/2 cup cocktail shrimp w/ 2 tbspn Heinz Cocktail Sauce, 3 boiled Tiger Prawns. [18uH]



chow......d.

"all is energy...and energy follows thought"

My Diabetes Page (http://www.datainthehouse.com/diabetes/dwdiabetes.htm) -- updated weekly --
iceman@astacalaska.net

[This message was edited by IceMan on January 01, 2004 at 07:26 PM.]